glock 43x vs p365 vs shield

All three guns shot accurately enough to be used in defensive situations, clearly, each gun had some likes and dislikes in the ammunition tested. It wasn’t even a shootout or comparison it was a Sig Sauer P365 promotion. I sure wish they put the XDS into this test. GunsAmerica Review of SIG P365, S&W Shield, and Glock 43 », New Glock 43 — Single-Stack 9x19mm Carry Gun, Top Five Full-Size 9mm Pistol Values Under $350.00, Carry Gun Bargains — Five Pistols under $250.00, Smith & Wesson 9mm Shield Pistol $199.99 with Factory Rebate, Glock Model 42 — A New Single-Stack .380 ACP Carry Pistol, SunDay GunDay: Doctor Paula Goes Distinguished at Age 67, Wolf Rifle and Pistol Primers in Stock at Wideners.com, ATK is #1 Ammo Maker, with $1.5 Billion in Annual Ammo Sales, Is Your Twist Rate OK? Modern gun culture is not about “idolatry.” It is about maintaining freedom. pistol . Sig Sauer is simply the Best! Glock, of course, has a long track record of reliability, and the G43 continues that tradition. Prior to retirement, I tried to carry a compact or subcompact that was compatible with my on duty magazines for my full sized duty weapon which included Glock 22/23s and Sig _P229,220 and 320\’s. Ease of concealment and operation make both of these pistols worthy of the popularity from my perspective. The P365, Hellcat are very similar but I tend to have more consistent groups with the P365. It also has a flat trigger that is awesome. The S&W Shield is the narrowest of the three guns at 1.03″ wide vs. 1.11″ for the P365 and 1.36″ for the Glock 43. I do like the sight picture of the Hellcat for fast acquisition. We give it a year to let the inevitable problems to come to light and another year for the company to fix it. The one glitch was a fiber optic blew out of a 444 Ultralight after a bit over five hundred rounds (not all fired on the same day) but their customer service fixed me up quick and free. Why You Should Full-Length Size Your Brass. Capacity — SIG P365 Has the Edge They have always been quick to reply and quick to fix. Back to Sig today 4-6 week turnaround. Cannot do the practicing I like at a range and while Gunsite is not that far from where I live the desert is free . The term should be, it held more ammunition than it’s rival competitors. And while he is an accomplished shooter that does not make him an accomplished reviewer. The old P226 shows no frame to slide wear after many thousands of rounds. For the time being, I’ll stick with my Bersa Thunder 9 Pro Ultra Compact (that’s a mouthful). I’m not willing to pay a high dollar price for a gun I need to start rebuilding to have confidence in it, nor will I trust my life to it until Sig proves the issue is gone. But there’s so much to the Sig that you have to think that if there were no glaring issues, how anyone could say it’s not THE CCW weapon for all. My wife and I were both carrying Sig P938s when the P365 came out. The winner to me is always the gun that fits your hand size, shooting style, and over all comfort in your hand. To keep it in the gun arena, I will cite only the NFA, GCA, and various current ERPOs. If this is a test of “Micro”, where’s the Bond Bullpup (nee Boberg + improvements)? the first 25 slow and deliberate, next ten slow at the face part of the target and 3 rounds of 5 shooting as quickly as I could. I hear the people making comments about failure to feed and maybe that is true with polymer guns. P365 bod 5/22/2018 less than 100 rounds broken striker. Get the Pearce +1 grip extension. How could you possibly review the 365 without mentioning the huge number of failures with the striker pin??????? That is my choice. I had multiple failures of the slide to go into battery. I’m 6’3 240 and it felt better in my hand. Although it was a bit heavier than the others, it also had the most variety of mag options (7, 8, and 9 capacities) and at the time the only one with the fiber optic front sight. 1) Where is the Springfield xds? Good points and just to clear the air- I bought the gun ( the first one the local shop had come in) as soon as it was available at full retail price, I received nothing from Sig for doing the article, and I still have it and carry it. They have a 20+ year history of designing and building guns specifically intended for concealed carry, and are damn fine firearms to boot. However, I have not yet to buy it until I can figure out the myriad issues I’ve read about and whether or not I think that it won’t happen. S&W had the greatest sight radius due to rear sight reaching to the back of the slide. About the author: The reason I don\’t carry my Shield, Keltec or P290RS (unless I am in NY with their mag capacity limits) is capacity. I recommend trying them both. In fact I haven’t shot a reliable Sig since I bought my wife a 2 tone P229 in the early 2000s despite formerly being a Sig guy back in the day. Just cant seem to get my hands on a 365, need to feel and shoot it to offer an unbiased opinion. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, © 2020 AccurateShooter.com. On the range shooting steel targets at speed, all three guns functioned flawlessly. I only got rid of it because I got the TRP Operator. Glock 43x vs. Sig P365 XL - EDC thoughts? My experience with polymer framed Sigs hasn’t been nearly so lucky. I own a number of small 9mm pistols, including a G43, Shield, and P365. Ronnie. I shoot the P365, Hellcat and Shield. work better for others , allowing them to participate in With the looney, drugged or drunk his CCW has become a 1911. Couldn’t justify the new cost of a Sig. Whatever the reason, it shot the best and all three shot well for “Micro-Compacts” at that distance. What gun did many really like the most. Firearms are by far the worst example of this. It appears that Kel-Tec and Kahr Arms really started a trend with Micro-9s. reviews, All these guns are very capable of engaging targets at defensive distances at speed with good shot placement. I bought a S&W Shield M1.0 when they first came out for $369. Most folks have considerably more experience with one pistol make/model over the others assessed in the comparison and this existing-experience bias will definitely skew the results. If your uncle chose to not carry a firearm for more than hunting, that is his choice. Has forward slide serratons, improved trigger, better grip texturing, etc….. why wasn’t the latest Shield used ? We are not obligated to purchase anything in any of these My personal preference is the S&W shield EZ M2.0. I did a little custom modification to the aggressive grip checkering, but now they have the Mod 2, which is fantastic and addresses the complaints about the deep grooves in the grip. Price is a valid concern for many of us. EDC, Other than the two failures with the large-mouthed bullets, all three of the guns ran 100% with both flush and extended magazines, with a wide variety of ammunition- these are highly reliable guns. I can attest to their quality and reliability over many years. Thanks for the article. I would suggest having several individuals fire groups for each firearm, to help account for existing-experience and fit/function biases. My make a great ladies gun. Your comment make more sense than anything on the page. Glock had the longest barrel of the test guns. A person looking for a slim, svelte carry gun is likely to weigh the Glock 43 vs Sig P365. This Editor owns two SIG Sauer pistols, a P226 and P232. Always enjoy reading them. I would have bought a G43 if the idiots would have put one more round in the mag. Sig in foreground holds 10+1, Glock 6+1, 2nd Sig 12+1, S&W Shield 8+1. Jeff is intimately familiar with the shooting industry – competitor, instructor, RO, range master, match director. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! While the gun feels a niche and does it well it's not without it's downsides. October 27, 2020 by Erik Meisner Leave a Comment. I’ll give it a few years on the market. No I’m not kidding. For example, someone who routinely carries and has years of practice on a S&W Shield, will likely have better groupings with the S&W Shield over the Glock 43 or Sig P365. of the 9mm cartridge , nor would I want a striker fired Guns, It will be interesting to see if they are able to offer the P365 in other calibers like the Shield and Xds do. It was created to ensure that “we the people” will always have to means to defeat the tyranny of those who control the local, state, and federal governments, primarily the federal government. Nice comparison. The Sig with its 12 in the magazine + 1 in the chamber, for 13 total rounds, placed good hits on the silhouettes and allowed me to engage all six plates and have one extra round for a pick up on a missed plate. thanks for reading and your comments JC. Now, the P365 is having striker and trigger issues, and Sig is trying to act as if that is normal wear and tear on the pistol. After carrying these pistols and firing hundreds of rounds through each, I understand why they are in the market position they are in. These are reliable, accurate,and durable little pistols,that perform flawlessly. Obviously a sign from above. Rather have a High Point. To be honest I shoot better groups with the Shield, but I’m getting closer. The Shield performed well and with its 8+1 extended magazine allowed for the same controlled pairs and getting three of the plates down of the 6 plate rack, this fun lasted a bit longer. The Hornady Critical Defense Light was definitely the softest shooting and easiest to control in all 3 guns and functioned 100%, I was a bit concerned the lighter load may prove finicky in the micro guns but it proved me wrong.. With all the data above it’s a bit tough to determine an answer to which firearm performed the best. What wins for you may lose for me. I think a great follow up comparison would be the Sig 365 vs. the Taurus G2C. Remington had issues with the 700 trigger going boom without pulling the trigger. Example, P320, P365. One area I never see addressed on these reviews is the feed ramp angle. Smith & Wesson. Digging into the difference in how the serration felt and performed a little deeper, revealed that the grooves of the P365 serrations were several thousands of an inch deeper than the Glock’s, and both of these were easier to manipulate than the S&W scalloped design serrations. Single-stack 9mms have certainly been front-and-center for some time now, and SIG’s 2018 drop was met with the expected fanfare. Among his training credits include NRA Instructor, AR-15 armorer, FBI Rifle Instructor, and Officer Low Light Survival Instructor. Also, which gun produces more inherent recoil due to weight and bore-axis. It fits my hand perfectly, points well and feels like an extension of my hand. It’s good to have an idea of the author’s qualifications but two things that are rarely mentioned in gun reviews are how the author obtained the firearm and if it’s to be returned after testing. But when you’re getting this small, it’s hard to find perfect. Though it has the highest round capacity, the SIG P365 actually has the smallest grip circumference and grip depth. Good article. Well said 0352. Advantage SIG. In reality, unfortunately,it’s not that easy. Was the Glock 43 the end all be all for 9mm compact carry guns? We go head to head with the Sig Sauer P365-XL vs. the Glock 43-X! Now the 43X is out. Shoot and shoot often. I will agree the SIG in 9 MM would be my choice of the 3 tested, hands down, Great article, And I do own a SIG. Not that it would have made a huge difference, but it could have made a difference non the less since the M2.0 version clearly sports upgrades. However, finding 9mm ammo might be difficult! Would I buy it again and recommend it to others. The MSRP of $599 is a bit higher than the other guns but Sig brings a bit more to the game. I must heartily disagree with your comments. The outstanding grip design, higher capacity, great sights, lighter trigger pull, smaller length, light weight and just a great overall feel make it a winning product. Some people think everyone weighs 250 pounds. When we use terms like “it held more bullets than its rival competitors” in the first paragraph, even though we know what you mean, it weakens our personnel standing on knowledge of the subject we speak. All three guns are in a league by themselves. The MSRP of $599 is a bit higher than the other guns but SIG brings a bit more to the game. Firearms Face-Off: Glock 43 vs. SIG P365 Kat Ainsworth - 04/28/2019 When SIG officially launched its P365, my social media feed was inundated with its praises from both inside and outside the gun industry. the Sig p365. The S&W Shield is the narrowest of the three guns at 1.03″ wide vs. 1.11″ for the P365 and 1.36″ for the Glock 43. Many people seem to think the intention of the second amendment was to protect man’s right to hunt and target shoot. But I also think the Smith & Wesson Shield also offers excellent value for the dollar. I own a P320, a Springfield XDM compact and a couple rugers. I have a Sig 938, 226, and 229 and shoot a fair amount, never have I had a failure to feed or fire, and they are much more accurate than many other guns. Guns with extended magazines inserted. I feel it boils down to what fits your hand best. He is passionate about shooting sports and the outdoors. A couple hours on the range I had 45 targets worth of groups and data to crunch. The writer has done a nice job of writing the obvious Didn’t they resolve most of the issues with it? That’s because they shoot great for me and are cost effective. for the S&W Shield, and 6.25 lbs. My gun buddies and I figured out that it’s best not to jump on the bandwagon with every new and shiny wonder gun. The XDs – which I really wanted to love, shot the worst and felt the worst. In the end, it’s all what feels best in your hand. Whichever you shoot better is better. Kudos to SIG for clever design. })(); To comment on a post, click Post Title or "Comment" Link. unloaded, is the lightest. Now, which gun would you rather have? I use all these and other pistols to train family and friends mostly women so they can get a feel for different subcompact carry options. The P365 has become my EDC primarily because of capacity. It’s the narrowest of all these guns and comes with a barrel length choice…. All these guns have good triggers and fine sights; these aren’t pocket derringers that are only good when trapped in a phone booth. Otherwise, a number of choices make it into my Versacarry owb Protector series jack slide holster to include service model XD 9, 40, 357 Sig and most often 45 ACP. I’ve just never liked how S&Ws fit me. ), When you are testing, why do you not include Kahr ? Although I appreciate gun reviews, even though most read like a sales pitch, it seems most of us are not immune to using the wrong terminology thereby reducing the impact of our article. My only challenge is the price. Why not compare against the LATEST Shield? Feature Articles, Begone pest. I bought a LC9, shield 40 and shield 9mm, browning 380. The Glock is slightly narrower than the Shield by a tiny – some would say unnoti… 2) why use the older shield and not the newer version? Be safe out there. I still prefer my two friends, Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson. Any firearm you can shoot well is better than nothing when you need one. Let’s get a ” grip ” here , folks ! Have a good one. 0352… will put. Before the Sig was introduced, I tested the Glock 43, Ruger LC9S, Kahr PM9, S&W Shield, Sig P290, Kel Tec PF-9 and the Springfield XDS to select a carry 9. To blame the suicides of veterans and LEOs on the availability of firearms is absurd. The outstanding grip design, higher capacity, great sights, lighter trigger pull, smaller length, light weight and just a great overall feel make it a winning product. Another reason my P320SC is my primary carry gun is that not only is it high capacity but it accepts 12, 15,17 and 21 round magazines. SIG seems to have given those of us who already have too many concealed carry pistols a compelling reason to buy another. (Always carry spare magazines and drill in changing them.). Which pistol is the best for concealed carry the Springfield Hellcat, Glock 43x, Sig P365 or M&P 2.0??? Please include the Beretta PX4 subcompact next time. It’s called the 2nd Amendment. I have Gen 2 Sig P365. Be sure and name what pistols you’d like to see included. Right to choose , perhaps ? If someone wants to kill himself, he will find a way to do so. That extra 2 pound trigger pull gave me some of the worst shooting I’ve ever done. I practice with it every trip to the range and find it extremely easy to shoot, and my groupings are tighter than ever. Production has since ramped up and with some shopping, all three pistols can be readily found available. Accuracy testing was shot at 25 feet with the three guns; using five types of ammunition and firing three five shot groups for each. My issue is just the added weight of the more rounds when i am trying to make an EDC as light and small as possible. Says $599, “a bit higher, etc..”. Hold it and shoot it if possible. I refuse to carry a pistol with a grip extension. Sig and SW how about better springs ? Absolutely! It looks like “Sig Quality” may be a thing of the past. You can conceal and carry them all day with ease and without anybody noticing. Other than that a pretty decent review and I’m not on board with some of the others who called this a sig sales promotion because the sig performed best. 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